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EP 210 - Product Awards Series: Optimizely VP of Product On Experimenting Instead Of Guessing
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EP 210 - Product Awards Series: Optimizely VP of Product On Experimenting Instead Of Guessing

In this podcast episode, the third in the 2022 Product Awards series, Optimizely VP of Product Thilo Richter speaks with Wayfair Product Leader Nacho Andrade about why PMs should do more exploratory testing, why actually understanding your customer’s problem is the most important thing, and why a great PM might have a few things in common with a scientist.

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